PowerPaulZ 3 Posted June 13, 2019 Only two types of players in this game.......camper and 4man teams. Both kill you if you make one wrong step and you can´t come back with gear to fight them..... I kill 3 of a 4man squad and the last just hiding the whole fight to fuck me up while picking the gear(not shown himself once, not even helping his teammates in fight). All PVP-Montages are boring and all so called plays are boring. Camp or flank as a Team..... No place for solo-players in this game. Waiting until a good lootershooter comes out, not this camping bullshit where you can´t even come back and fight. Btw not so salty rather than sad.......had over 10000 hours in WarZ/ISS - but this game is not what I hoped for. Watch one Dakotaz Montage and then one of Xera. That was good PVP and fun to watch. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pei_pa_koa 6 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) Quote Only two types of players in this game.......camper and 4man teams. Play in Solo and First Person Only, Quote Both kill you if you make one wrong step and you can´t come back with gear to fight them..... This is in all actions games, 1 fail and you're dead. Quote I kill 3 of a 4man squad and the last just hiding the whole fight to fuck me up while picking the gear(not shown himself once, not even helping his teammates in fight). This is normal in these type of games, I do the same thing, its wait to the best option to kill an enemy... plus, if u kill 3 / 4 mans, the last man maybe have panic to rush you... Quote Watch one Dakotaz Montage and then one of Xera. That was good PVP and fun to watch. This game have a more potential than ISS / newz .. trust me, the devs need more time and they must think carefull the next update... this game must be focuses on PVP fast and Easy... give him a chance, trust me, its a new game and new company Edited June 13, 2019 by pei_pa_koa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xDarrick 0 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) i fully agree with, this game is awefully campy and you have to actually hope to get some good pvp action... no gi access on respawn kills the game for me and actually all people i know, nobody wants to waste 10-20 minutes to get back into action -> you even got to hope the action is still there 24h peak on steamcharts drops on a daily basis, 455 people was the last peak within 24 hours... given we have double exp for gi but guess what only a handfull cares about exp and gi size... so sad... this game offers much more potential than warz/iss ever had but it seems Joshua does not see how simple things would boost the playercount... gi access upon death is winwin for every solo or duo players, it would extend pvp action for groups and give the chance to take stuff back (from time to time at least) Edited June 13, 2019 by xDarrick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xDarrick 0 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, pei_pa_koa said: Play in Solo and First Person Only, This is in all actions games, 1 fail and you're dead. This is normal in these type of games, I do the same thing, its wait to the best option to kill an enemy... plus, if u kill 3 / 4 mans, the last man maybe have panic to rush you... This game have a more potential than ISS / newz .. trust me, the devs need more time and they must think carefull the next update... this game must be focuses on PVP fast and Easy... give him a chance, trust me, its a new game and new company we(duo) obliterate people on no group servers and most of the people group on them without tags... (3-5 people we saw constantly) this game is not an action game, it is camp crouch pvp that is very boring 80% of the time Edited June 13, 2019 by xDarrick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pei_pa_koa 6 Posted June 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, xDarrick said: i fully agree with, this game is awefully campy and you have to actually hope to get some good pvp action... no gi access on respawn kills the game for me and actually all people i know, nobody wants to waste 10-20 minutes to get back into action -> you even got to hope the action is still there 24h peak on steamcharts drops on a daily basis, 455 people was the last peak within 24 hours... given we have double exp for gi but guess what only a handfull cares about exp and gi size... so sad... this game offers much more potential than warz/iss ever had but it seems Joshua does not see how simple things would boost the playercount... gi access upon death is winwin for every solo or duo players, it would extend pvp action for groups and give the chance to take stuff back (from time to time at least) " no gi access on respawn " this is a bullshit thing... if u lose the pvp u want comeback full gear for recover your lost loot? and then the enemy back full gear to recover his loot, and this never stop... this pvp u want? u dont know nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xDarrick 0 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, pei_pa_koa said: " no gi access on respawn " this is a bullshit thing... if u lose the pvp u want comeback full gear for recover your lost loot? and then the enemy back full gear to recover his loot, and this never stop... this pvp u want? u dont know nothing. this is what a lot of people want yes a chance to fight and take back we have to search for pvp since days even on 1 high pop there are 10 people in sz and rest somewhere else btw i can not take you serious because you want lockers (horrible mechanic from iss) and you want to go onto a server with clan tags (10+ maybe?) these things drove away players from iss... Edited June 13, 2019 by xDarrick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMistakee 6 Posted June 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, xDarrick said: this is what a lot of people want yes a chance to fight and take back we have to search for pvp since days even on 1 high pop there are 10 people in sz and rest somewhere else btw i can not take you serious because you want lockers (horrible mechanic from iss) and you want to go onto a server with clan tags (10+ maybe?) these things drove away players from iss... Being able to instantly get gear and head back at a nearby respawn is terrible. You would never make gear. People would just keep coming and fighting and eventually you would just lose gear lol. From Despawning or not being able to pick it up. People complaining about pvp are also those who go on a 5 pop and look for pvp there. Head to the full server and pvp there. Thats where we all go and theres tons of pvp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xDarrick 0 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) we only play on the fullest server since there is no other way to find pvp... but we all quit when we have to respawn in sz cause its fking annoying to wait 20 minutes to maybe get back to pvp and we always made gear when respawning back with loadout, you maybe make no profit but that is you Edited June 13, 2019 by xDarrick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xDarrick 0 Posted June 13, 2019 all big streamers can not stream this game since nobody wants to watch a guy standing in sz waiting for randocopter or run all the way give them the ability to respawn with gi access and guess what happens they can enjoy pvp and their viewers can enjoy watching all in all it is super boring atm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pei_pa_koa 6 Posted June 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, xDarrick said: all big streamers can not stream this game since nobody wants to watch a guy standing in sz waiting for randocopter or run all the way give them the ability to respawn with gi access and guess what happens they can enjoy pvp and their viewers can enjoy watching all in all it is super boring atm u sounds really stupid, sry brother... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMistakee 6 Posted June 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, xDarrick said: all big streamers can not stream this game since nobody wants to watch a guy standing in sz waiting for randocopter or run all the way give them the ability to respawn with gi access and guess what happens they can enjoy pvp and their viewers can enjoy watching all in all it is super boring atm Giving access to GI immediately is just not a good idea. You shouldn't be able to continually zerg into fights. If you die and someone gets your gear and runs to safe zone its your fault for dying. People complaining about being able to GI right after death are those who aren't very good at the game which is fine but you cant play a game involving pvp and cry about dying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PowerPaulZ 3 Posted June 13, 2019 You are who in the toplist??? I played solo 90% of the time and I am in the toplist and my GI is full of G36/Scars and Honeys. I have 50 Heavy Wests.....love bad people telling better people how they are bad at the game. Darricks GI probably the same as mine...... But Gear means nothing if the PVP is no fun. But enjoy your camping shit. Wait a few weeks then you can camp all day for one kill on nearly empty servers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xDarrick 0 Posted June 13, 2019 yeah my gi is full of the same stuff... i guess only the worst players hate gi access upon respawn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMistakee 6 Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, PowerPaulZ said: You are who in the toplist??? I played solo 90% of the time and I am in the toplist and my GI is full of G36/Scars and Honeys. I have 50 Heavy Wests.....love bad people telling better people how they are bad at the game. Darricks GI probably the same as mine...... But Gear means nothing if the PVP is no fun. But enjoy your camping shit. Wait a few weeks then you can camp all day for one kill on nearly empty servers. But making threads like this and constantly flaming wont bring anything positive to the game. Include some real feedback and ideas that they could use to change the game so we avoid anything happening to the player base. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xDarrick 0 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TheMistakee said: But making threads like this and constantly flaming wont bring anything positive to the game. Include some real feedback and ideas that they could use to change the game so we avoid anything happening to the player base. we bring ideas and you start defending the worst annoying mechanics what do you expect? we say, give gi access after death so people can: 1. fight back 2. do not have to wait for randocopter to maybe go in the right direction 3. do not have to run there if randocopter turns in the different direction 4. let teams fight against teams multiple times so there is more pvp instead of one or 2 short battles -> wait again for more people... 5. let solo / duo players approach teams different (nades/drones - from gi) if they decide to go against the team again the decreasing playerbase shows exactly that the game is going into the wrong direction Edited June 13, 2019 by xDarrick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMistakee 6 Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, xDarrick said: we bring ideas and you start defending the worst annoying mechanics what do you expect? we say, give gi access after death so people can: 1. fight back 2. do not have to wait for randocopter to maybe go in the right direction 3. do not have to run there if randocopter turns in the different direction 4. let teams fight against teams multiple times so there is more pvp instead of one or 2 short battles -> wait again for more people... 5. let solo / duo players approach teams different (nades/drones - from gi) if they decide to go against the team again The thread was started in a way of just saying the game is boring and not offering any feedback. This was feedback which is good for the Devs to look at. That was what i was getting at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirborneLawnDart 12 Posted June 13, 2019 7 hours ago, PowerPaulZ said: Only two types of players in this game.......camper and 4man teams. Both kill you if you make one wrong step and you can´t come back with gear to fight them..... I kill 3 of a 4man squad and the last just hiding the whole fight to fuck me up while picking the gear(not shown himself once, not even helping his teammates in fight). All PVP-Montages are boring and all so called plays are boring. Camp or flank as a Team..... No place for solo-players in this game. Waiting until a good lootershooter comes out, not this camping bullshit where you can´t even come back and fight. Btw not so salty rather than sad.......had over 10000 hours in WarZ/ISS - but this game is not what I hoped for. Watch one Dakotaz Montage and then one of Xera. That was good PVP and fun to watch. If they do the Reputation System right, you'll see a BIG change in how the PVP works. If you see people with your reputation, you'll be able to safely ignore them or group up with them. If people of your faction get in a fight you can go back them up. It'll mean a lot more battles instead of 1v4 matches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khione 3 Posted June 13, 2019 I've seen millions of these complaints when i was playing WarZ/Infestation. This is the thing about this genre, there is only a little chance for you to kill a whole squad. Camping is very effective in this game like most of other fps games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PowerPaulZ 3 Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Khione said: I've seen millions of these complaints when i was playing WarZ/Infestation. This is the thing about this genre, there is only a little chance for you to kill a whole squad. Camping is very effective in this game like most of other fps games. Dude in WarZ i wiped Clans up to 10man and not even once but many times.... Of course it´s always harder against more people but in this game if you are solo and the 4man team flanks you far, you have 0 chance. Longer med cooldown with less HP gain and useless 1sek delay to be able to shoot again and no shields......but this would have been ok for me if I would get another chance to fight. But if you miss the heli it can take up to 15-20min to get back to where the fight was and there is no fight anymore..... All my friends have already quit the game because they are not as good as me in this games and they can´t even 1v2 let alone 1v3 or 1v4. And camping never was that big of a deal in WarZ/ISS/SS but in this game with 5x Headshotdamage and Thirdpersonpreaim the kill is 99% safe on one dude. And if you look at the playerbase you can clearly see that i wasn´t the only one thinking that way. If you kill 3 out of 4 there is a big chance if you would come back geared you can kill all 4 but as it is now you lost everything and have no chance to fight because their buddy will camp the loot and you can´t pick your shit and finding gear to fight is like a lottery in this game. Edited June 14, 2019 by PowerPaulZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khione 3 Posted June 14, 2019 I can't take people like you seriously. Everyone i meet wipes 10 men groups... It's not a good idea to let people insta spawn with guns. And most people agree with this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PowerPaulZ 3 Posted June 14, 2019 Just now, Khione said: I can't take people like you seriously. Everyone i meet wipes 10 men groups... It's not a good idea to let people insta spawn with guns. And most people agree with this. Don´t take me serious.....it´s ok for me. I played 10000 hours of war z alone but what do I know. Let the decreasing playerbase speak for itself. Thank you and have a nice day sir. Three of my friends stopped playing after just 3-4 days because of the 10-20min get back in action shit and not being able to get back to a good fight. And two after 3 weeks. And now i did so too. I am 100% sure not everyone quits because of the same reasons but nearly all of my friends wanted intense PVP like WarZ/ISS, not a camping bullshit fest with no counterplay and no way to come back to fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xDarrick 0 Posted June 14, 2019 51 minutes ago, PowerPaulZ said: Don´t take me serious.....it´s ok for me. I played 10000 hours of war z alone but what do I know. Let the decreasing playerbase speak for itself. Thank you and have a nice day sir. Three of my friends stopped playing after just 3-4 days because of the 10-20min get back in action shit and not being able to get back to a good fight. And two after 3 weeks. And now i did so too. I am 100% sure not everyone quits because of the same reasons but nearly all of my friends wanted intense PVP like WarZ/ISS, not a camping bullshit fest with no counterplay and no way to come back to fight. no way to come back to fight killed it for us the randocopter is just plain stupid if you want to get back Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pei_pa_koa 6 Posted June 14, 2019 4 hours ago, PowerPaulZ said: Don´t take me serious.....it´s ok for me. I played 10000 hours of war z alone but what do I know. Let the decreasing playerbase speak for itself. Thank you and have a nice day sir. Three of my friends stopped playing after just 3-4 days because of the 10-20min get back in action shit and not being able to get back to a good fight. And two after 3 weeks. And now i did so too. I am 100% sure not everyone quits because of the same reasons but nearly all of my friends wanted intense PVP like WarZ/ISS, not a camping bullshit fest with no counterplay and no way to come back to fight. maybe u and your frinds need play battle royale games... u cant come here and want change the whole game.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xDarrick 0 Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, pei_pa_koa said: maybe u and your frinds need play battle royale games... u cant come here and want change the whole game.. its not the whole game, it just does not work this way, their long ea journey will be over within 6 months if they continue like this since nobody will care about what they do EU primetime and we do not even have 350 people playing... this shows exactly how people feel about the game Edited June 14, 2019 by xDarrick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites